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Old 10-27-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Can You Identify This Vintage Bike?

Can anyone identify this early side-valve. Came across this old photograph on another site, AMCA forum ( http://tinyurl.com/2tyfqw ), of which I am not a member so couldn't post a query. Thanks...
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:38 AM
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It's a Camelback Indian Tri-Car, otherwise also know as Forecars.

It's a Cmaelback because the gas tank in the hump on the rear fender behind the riders seat. And the passangers ride up front ahead of the driver. It's sort of a backwards Servicar trike.

If you are into classic American bikes, you might also want to check out the brand new site (where you can sign up for free) at www.caimag.com (classic American iron magazine).
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:47 PM
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Thank you, Buzz. I am somewhat familiar with the Indian, forecars and camel backs, as a matter of fact, it states Indian Tri-Car on the photo face itself. It was, what I have since come to know as being the 1910-1911 Pierce with the small child in the saddle, about 6 pictures down, that I was having trouble recollecting. I knew the frame was familiar but couldn't quite place it.

I uploaded to this site (to who knows where) a picture of it and subsequently posted same in my query, but I can see that it has since morphed into a red X. Perhaps some one could advise as to a more effective means of posting photos here.

I am interested in the classics and I did sign up over at www.caimag.com and attempted, but failed to succesfully post a reply to your servi-car wheel query, so instead, I posted the following reply on this site @ New Site For Classic Bikes

Buzz, Re: your post over there regarding servi wheels for friend, I tried to reply on that thread but am not entirely convinced that I was any where near successful. So, here goes.

I hope this helps in some way and not only add to confusion with to much information.

Let me know what year and I'll do what I can to see what's out there. Wire wheels or solid, 5 bolt or 6 (1973), mechanical drum brakes, juice brakes or disc brakes (disc late year 73 only)?

In the meantime your friend can try. GEORGE'S WORLD WIDE ANTIQUE MOTORCYCLE TRADER at the following link... http://www.omnieye.com/mc/forsale3.htm There are a lot of adds to comb through, and in no particular order, other than date, on George's, however, if you hit ctrl + f at same time, enter servi-car and you can search this or most any web page and get through it fairly rapidly.

Also, there is Throttle Masters out of Chicago who carries, "New, used, NOS, rebuilt & quality reproduction parts including Vintage & Antique parts for older Harley’s.[sic]" They have a strong eBay presence @ http://stores.ebay.com/Throttle-Masters

Here is some food for thought on servi-car solid wheels (may not be relevant if he is looking for wire set), gleaned from a thread of the same subject taken from another site...

I was told by several people that 1960"s ford wheels {the solid ones} will fit the rear servicar. I just got a servicar with micky thompson wheels on it and want to go back to stock to put on box on it. already have the box just need info on what wheels will fit thanks..Jim

Hi 52EL,

I had the same problem when I did the wife's '71 Servi, trying to find OEM wheels is getting VERY pricey! I always wondered what happened to all the originals because none of the survivors seem to have the stock wheels on them anymore.

To answer your question; yes, the old Ford rims will fit, so will old Studebaker or Chrysler product wheels. The problem is width, most of the automotive rims are too wide to mount a cycle tire and very few of them are still available in 16".

I went to a local trailer supply place and bought a brand new set of 15" wheels for a small utility trailer and then bought the narrowest set of tires I could find. The trailer place also had the baby moons to complete the "original" look. They do stick out a little but they've been on there for a couple of years now and seem to work just fine.

here's a picture of the her bike at the Arkansas H.O.G. Rally last month. It brought home the 2nd place trophy (one of those $50K Lehman trike conversions took first)

mike

Thank you for the information I live in North Georgia and there are still quite a few old cars in the junkyards around here. So the search is on!!! This will be a winter project Just trying to collect the parts i will need to complete. Thanks again Jim.

There are many JEEP brake parts on the back of the 'juice' 1951 & later servi's..
I think old Willys Jeep rims are just right.. IIRC (worth a check)

I've seen ebay getting up to & maybe more than $600 for a half-decent pair of rims only...........


Happy Hunting...Keep us informed

Billy,

You're correct about the Jeep brake parts interchange, and I'll mention Studebaker again. 2 of my Stude trucks have the exact same master cylinder. Another good source is a fork lift or dock mule parts supplier because they all used the same Bendix stuff too.

I'm not sure about the Jeep rims, they were narrow 16" rims with the same bolt pattern but all the military ones I've seen have a ring of circular holes at the outside of the disk where it meets the rim. They would probably fit but they wouldn't look stock. Maybe a set from a civilian model from the same era, like a CJ2, but they would probably be as scarce as original servi wheels.

The search continues......

ok yesterday in the pouring rain I hit appox. 10 junkyards here in North Georgia. I ended up with a set of solid steel wheels off a 40's model willys jeep {military probably] 16" wheels 4.5 inch width with dodge,Chrysler,ford 5 lug bolt pattern for $80 . as an added bonus they have the clips on them for the wheels covers. they will need blasting and powder coat and they will be just fine. FYI when hunting for wheels in the junkyard bring a jack and lug wrench and a can or two of pb blaster!!!! when asking about these style wheels they just point Over there!!! So now I have collected most of the major pieces just little stuff remains so the winter project is on track!! thanks for your input .[/i]




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