Jiffy stand-lean angle

[banginona40]

Since replacing rear shocks and front fork springs on my 1995 FXDL and lowering the MC 1" I am now not quite comfortable with the new lean angle when it is on the jiffy stand. I'm wondering if there is a recommended angle that the bike should lean, or at least a minimum angle ?

Can I put the jiffy stand in a hydraulic press and change the angle or what about grinding the nub down on the stand to fit lower in the stop on the frame?
I kinda hate to buy a new stand unless absolutely necessary.

Thanks so much to everyone who has offered feedback on my numerous questions. csw

[frisco-rigid]

Hi Bang

I have changed the kick-stand angle several times but only the type that fits up on the forward control mount.. Is that the type you have..??

When you say NUB,, if you're talking about the "stop" that fits in the bracket, that determines the end position of the kick-stand bar, ,,,,,,, I wouldn't change it's shape at all..!!!

I have bent the bar/stand to change the angle.. It only needs a wee bit of bend to make a big diff,,,,, of course, it depends on where you bend it..
If you bend the stand/bar up near the TOP a very wee bit will move the bottom-end of the stand/bar alot..
And if you bend near the bottom it will be more of a 1 to 1 result..
I'm not sure if I described that well enough..

However there are "wedges" you can buy from the catalogs & maybe even a shop, if they have it in stock, that changes the angle very little at the Bracket itself which creates quite alot of change at the bottom ground contact..
I use one currently on the 120" and it accomplished just what was needed..

And even a few washers between the kick-stand bracket bottom mounting bolts and the Mount will changed the angle in that same manner,,,, uh, I've done that too..

[aceharleywrench]

Frisco,Dyna's have a fubar style mounting system under the primary,so no wedges or washers will not work.Bending the stand is going to be tricky to get right, but I'd give it a shot before buying a new one.

[daveg95FXDL]

You're wise to be concerned, Had a girl friend's bike that fell over by itself @ Sturgis because it was parked on a hill leaning to the right. (Did'nt hurt much just broke R/H mirror & end of frt. brake handle) Good Luck! Let us know what/how it works.

[banginona40]

Well, to all interested, I did put a slight bend in the kick stand by using my hydraulic press. There was quite a lot of spring back as I was making the bend so I needed to really over bend the stand to get just a little change in the angle. It did work just fine however. Now my problem is that I am not really happy with the lowered Bike and may be raising it back up and readjusting the stand as well. S****t happens. csw

[JCourneyaP]

Does the integrity of the metal change when you bend the kick stand like that? A little weight on it and then snap.............

I had a a swivel arm for a clutch in a chevy that I bent a tad(with Heat) and that dang thing snapped after a few months of use just a hair above where I put the bend.

Could it have been the heat that made it vulnerable or the fact that I bent it out of specs and the load was too much. I would just hate to see a bike falling over cuz the stand snapped.

[banginona40]

I hear you ! My question also. I did not use heat and the chrome did not crack but I am not sure and may just end up buying a new stand. Anyone more knowledgeable about metalurgey out there ? csw

[frisco-rigid]

Hi Bang

It all depends on the hardness and composition of the steel..
Being that it's just a Kick-Stand and Not a structrual member of the Space Shuttle you need Not worry at all..

Plus what you did is kinda tatamount to Cold Rolling (and a wee bit at that) which doesn't dramatically change the molecules alignment if at all..
Plus plus,, the shear mass of the Kick-stand is usually waaaay bigger than needed to hold up the sickle.. I wouldn't fret One bit..

When JC used heat to bend his part he changed the alignment of the molecules and either Hardened or softened the material in & around the bend..
That wouldn'ta made a hill of beans normally but well, in this case it musta..

Heat is used to toughen, temper and harden steel----it can also destroy those properties..

Hey--about lowering your sickle---live & learn huh..
There's nothing like First-hand knowledge.. Good man..

[Gas Man]

Cut and weld back together shorter.

or

Ness sells a 1" shorter and a telescopic
Arlen Ness - Kickstands