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Old 08-08-2008, 09:29 PM
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Default Sheovelhead Mill into a Knucklehead Frame?

Has anyone here ever squeezed a generator Shovelhead (aka Panshovel) into Kucklehead frame? I’m not sure it’ll fit since I seem to remember Panhead engines wouldn’t fit without a lot of modification to the frame (mostly the height of the engine if I remember correctly). I thought I’d ask anyway.

I have a 1947 EL frame that was semi-chopped before (i.e., not worth restoring as an original) that I would prefer finding a later F Knuckhead engine for, but failing that I want to put something in it so it ceases to be merely something taking up space. Generator Shovelhead engines I can still find for reasonable amounts. Ideas?

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Old 08-08-2008, 10:28 PM
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Hey MPH

One way to find out bud----try it..

Curious-- why a flat-side shovel,, why not a cone shovel..?

I have installed both in Pan frames..

I have no experience with Knuckle motors or frames..
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:42 PM
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Default Expensive.............

Yes, I could try it and that may be the best way to find out if no one here knows the answer, but if the swap doesn't work, then I have to find another frame, tranny, and so forth to work with the newly acquired generator shovel. After all, once I have that engine, I won't be able to let it go............not easily anyway………..there are some things that are very hard to part with…………..

Why a generator-Shovel instead of an alternator-Shovel? Nostalgia? I think it goes back to the root of why and when I began to see Harleys as more than cop, Shriner, and old fogy bikes--Brit bikes and the just released Honda CB-750 were the “bikes to have” of that era. That was in 1969. I was introduced favorably to Harleys in the form of choppers. That was a time when Harley dealers would run you off with a shotgun if you showed up at their dealership on a chopper or, for that matter, anything that didn’t look like a Shriner-special. They only wanted “respectable” motorcycle people around their establishment. My love affair with Harleys began with Knuckleheads and Panheads. That was a time when we called what is today referred to as a “Big Twin,” as a “Harley 74.” Even the 61 inch bikes were referred to as “74s” then. Generator-Shovelheads were the newest Harley offered at that time since the alternator bikes were first introduced with the 1970 model, and man did they look weird at the time—like something was missing! Yes, the generator-Shovels were the new Harleys of the era and they had 12-volt electrics and electric start, but generator bikes they were. As a result, they are the bikes/engines that hold that special place in my heart when it comes to Harleys. Let’s call it a personal thing………..

This isn’t a pressing matter for me, but if and when the right info, right components, and right price come together, I will take care of business………….

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Old 08-09-2008, 01:13 AM
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Default Nostalgia

Hey mph,
Your dealer must have been in a different neighborhood. My first dealer was 10 blocks from the main gate at NNSY in Portsmouth, Va. If you were tough enough to be in that neighborhood you didn`t worry about much. Police dogs traveled in pairs and refused to get out of the truck in that area. All of that has been gone for years. I can`t help on the swap.
When Va came up with a motorcycle endorsement in 1969 I took the test on a borrowed 750 Honda.
I put a 650 Triumph (750 Chantland kit) into a Rickman frame. Great wheelie bike. Sold it buy my Vincent. I still have it.
Nostalgia-- Going to miss it when the memory goes.
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