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Old 10-06-2008, 11:28 PM
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Default Harley CVO 110 inch issues

Anyone here who owns and rides a 110 inch CVO?

We are hearing of many problems with them and would like to hear your story.
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:02 PM
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I'll get the ball rolling; to date & 16k miles:
  • Head gasket replacement at about 8500 miles
  • Again with the gaskets via H-D's "program" - 15K miles
  • Automatic Compression Releases fail to work correctly, which in turn crapped out the starter (so I've been explained) - 14500 miles
  • Heated grips not working - 16k miles (H-D heated grips seem to fail on a regular basis)
  • Other none mechanical items - Paint on fairing was slightly botched when I went to pick up bike. Seems that the factory tried to cover mistake with touch up paint (replaced by H-D). Saddlebag lid had flaw in paint job (replaced by H-D); gastank had flaw in paint (replaced by H-D)
  • Both rear shocks needed replacement. leaked air - seperate time
  • Heated seat doesn't work consistantly
  • The heat from the rear cylinder melted the Kuryakyn lizard lights controller

On the other side of thing - I really do enjoy the bike. My only major complaint is the heat the engine puts out on warm-hot days. I've installed saddle shields, an aftermarket cooling fan (Lenale) & installed the lower fairing detachable kit for those warmer days. All have helped some, but you still don't want to get stuck in traffic for a long period of time.
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:47 PM
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Default Harley CVO 110 inch issues

I own a 2007 Screamin Eagle Ultra Classic. I had a head gasket oil leak develop on the rear cylinder at about 4500 miles. Harley denied knowledge of an issue. The local dealer denied knowledge of the issue, even though I knew they had rebuilt 2 110's prior to my failure for the same head leak issue. Harley (HD customer service) nor the local dealership had a solution other then rebuilding the motor with the same pieces that were already known to fail. Of course, I had heard of many many failures prior to mine - many with mutiple failures. So, rather then have the dealer rebuild the motor with parts known to fail, I rebuilt the motor myself - on my dime and with my labor, replacing the cylinders and using Cometic gaskets and Cometic recommended torque procedures. I have since put over 10,000 additional miles on the motor with no repeat of the failure. Of course, the 2008 110's subsquently came out and had the same failures. Harley came out with multiple head gasket designs which also failed. And now - finally after almost 3 years - they sent me a letter in the mail offering a "Product Improvement", offering replacement of the cylinder heads, head gaskets and cylinder gaskets - 3 years!!! I have owned many HD's over the years, and this is my 5th Screamin Eagle bike, having owned SE Road Glides, SE Electra Glides and the current SE Ultra Classic. This has been an incredibly disappointing experience. Not just the failure with no solution, but more so, the denial of an issue when the rest of the Screamin Eagle 110 world was fully aware of the issue. But, I do now have a picture book, sent by Harley Davidson as a sort of apology for the whole issue. Unfortunately, it doesn't come close to reimbursing me for my costs or my time or the lost riding opportunity nor does it remove the sour taste of being lied to continually by HD customer service. And a book probably won't improve my resale value much either. Quite seriously, for the first time in my life I will have to strongly consider alternate motorcycles before my next purchase. Having a problem and honestly owning up to having a problem beats evasiveness and out right lying every time. And this is after 5 Screamin Eagles and 5 non Screamin Eagle model purchases in my lifetime.
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:33 PM
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I have a 08 Screaming Eagle Road King. Love the bike but at 7000 miles I've already had two sets of gaskets installed because of leaks. Harley should really get their act together. If all the 110's are having problems and the "fix" is not working, how many bikers are going to line up to pay big dollars for a CVO (their top of the line bikes no less)? If you are looking for more information on problems you should check out the CVO harley site. Just be warned that thereare several members that do not express a positive view of this magzine. Some people just see things differently i guess.
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Old 10-08-2008, 06:02 PM
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I have a 08 Screaming Eagle Road King. Love the bike but at 7000 miles I've already had two sets of gaskets installed because of leaks. Harley should really get their act together. If all the 110's are having problems and the "fix" is not working, how many bikers are going to line up to pay big dollars for a CVO (their top of the line bikes no less)? If you are looking for more information on problems you should check out the CVO harley site. Just be warned that thereare several members that do not express a positive view of this magzine. Some people just see things differently i guess.
The CVO Harley site is upset with AIM because they have not published any reports of problems with the 110 CVO.
There was a thread here that several members came and complained.
First I do not work for AIM, but let me explain something about publishing.
Most publications are lucky if the subscription price pays for printing and mailing the magazine.
The advertising pays the bills. No smart publisher would run any article that slammed his best advertiser.
That is just the way it is, like it or not, that is a fact of life. Don’t believe me, go in tomorrow and tell your boss his wife is a pig. Even if it is true, it is not a smart thing to do.
Now Donny, has mentioned the problem but he is a freelance writer, and this is his opinion, but still risky, especially while everyone is cutting back on advertising revenue..
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Old 10-09-2008, 08:45 AM
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The CVO Harley site is upset with AIM because they have not published any reports of problems with the 110 CVO.
There was a thread here that several members came and complained.
First I do not work for AIM, but let me explain something about publishing.
Most publications are lucky if the subscription price pays for printing and mailing the magazine.
The advertising pays the bills. No smart publisher would run any article that slammed his best advertiser.
That is just the way it is, like it or not, that is a fact of life. Don’t believe me, go in tomorrow and tell your boss his wife is a pig. Even if it is true, it is not a smart thing to do.
Now Donny, has mentioned the problem but he is a freelance writer, and this is his opinion, but still risky, especially while everyone is cutting back on advertising revenue..
I have to agree with you. I have noticed that there are several members that are on both boards, but it seems it me (just my view) that the ones that are complaining are pretty much just on the CVO board. I would think that if they had any thoughts or issues about AIM that this would be the better place to post to get a direct response. It's more than obvious that the staff of AIM always responds to topics, definitely more than any other magazine site I've checked out.
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:30 AM
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Anyone here who owns and rides a 110 inch CVO?

We are hearing of many problems with them and would like to hear your story.
Buzz

Look at the postings on this site under Harley Twin Cams / Leaky CVO 110's. A number of us have posted our problems.

I have a 08 Screamin Eagle Road King. She started leaking with less than 3700miles on her. I told the guys at my shop I had heard the cylinder liners were moving on these motors. They verified this was the problem. They were told by the MoCo the issue is reoccurring. However the fix was to simply replace the cylinder with a new cylinder made the same way and hope for the best.

I believe to do so would be very similar to following the definition of insanity.

I am not upset with AIM. I would like to see an honest article looking into this to see if it is a wide spread problem, what the MoCo has done to address what they have found and why they are so reluctant to let the customers know they are fixing these problems. Harley has a great customer base. They need to be very reactive to their customer's needs so we continue to support the brand.

Stay safe

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Old 10-16-2008, 04:49 PM
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Exclamation CVO 110" problems

Well, this isn't only regarding the 110" motor. Its about my 2007 CVO Ultra Classic in general.

Problems:
head gasket/base o-rings x2, not including the upgrade/recall
fuel tank check valve - replacement
battery - replacement
horn - replacement
heated grips x2 - replacement
heated seat - abnormal wear - replacement
front turn signals - replacement
radio - replacement
tourpak hinge - replacement
headset - replacement
dash switches - replacement
broken fairing mount - replacement
cruise control is intermittent

I think there's more, but this is off the top of my head.
I'd have to guess this cost the MoCo over $10K in repairs so far & I still have 6 yrs of warranty left.


During the 1st year of ownership, it spent over 40 days in the dealership service dept for warranty repairs! (can we spell 'lemon'?)
I'd think for the $36K spent for a new top of the line motorcycle, it should have few - zero problems & maybe a day or 2 to repair!

Unfortunately, they will hardly give me what I owe on it for trade-in value.
Is this the way we CVO owners should be treated?

My Goldwing buddies get a good laugh when I'm riding my spare bike, (yes, spare or I'd be walking), because they know my POS is in the shop AGAIN!!

Thanks for giving me the space to vent some frustration, besides pushing this bike off a cliff....
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:51 PM
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Well, this isn't only regarding the 110" motor. Its about my 2007 CVO Ultra Classic in general.

Problems:
head gasket/base o-rings x2, not including the upgrade/recall
fuel tank check valve - replacement
battery - replacement
horn - replacement
heated grips x2 - replacement
heated seat - abnormal wear - replacement
front turn signals - replacement
radio - replacement
tourpak hinge - replacement
headset - replacement
dash switches - replacement
broken fairing mount - replacement
cruise control is intermittent

I think there's more, but this is off the top of my head.
I'd have to guess this cost the MoCo over $10K in repairs so far & I still have 6 yrs of warranty left.


During the 1st year of ownership, it spent over 40 days in the dealership service dept for warranty repairs! (can we spell 'lemon'?)
I'd think for the $36K spent for a new top of the line motorcycle, it should have few - zero problems & maybe a day or 2 to repair!

Unfortunately, they will hardly give me what I owe on it for trade-in value.
Is this the way we CVO owners should be treated?

My Goldwing buddies get a good laugh when I'm riding my spare bike, (yes, spare or I'd be walking), because they know my POS is in the shop AGAIN!!

Thanks for giving me the space to vent some frustration, besides pushing this bike off a cliff....
And I thought I had troubles. Sorry to hear all the issues you've had. I have to agree, after spending almost 40K (with taxes and ESP) one would think you have a bike that should be ready for tons of trouble free miles.
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Old 10-16-2008, 07:12 PM
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My 2006 Street Glide was in the shop more than it was out. As soon as I reached the required days to take legal action I contacted a lemon law attorney (it was free). It took nine months but I was rid of my 06. Instead of getting my money back I took an 07' Street Glide. It left a really bad taste in my mouth. It would have been an even bigger bummer if this was my first experience with motorcycling. Good luck to you all. I feel your pain. I don't know how the motor company is going to resolve all of the CVO engine problems. It doesn't sound like this could be resolved with a recall due to the volume of work it would create to repair all those motors. Look into the lemon law in your respective state for relief if it applies to you.
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