V/H Fuel Pack and Big Radius Pipes - Harley Forum

hdroadkng · #1 01-08-2008, 08:23 AM

Good morning

I just purchased an 2008 Road Glide and I'm getting ready to complete my 1000 service and now I'm itching to start adding to the bike. I want to put Vance and Hines Big Radius pipes on the bike. I know Harley has change the ECM module connections and there are no aftermarket tuners other than the Fuel Pack or Harley's race tuner. I spoke to the local Harley Dealer here in Jaxs (Adamac) and of course they say race tuner, pipes, dyno and labor which which at last coutnt was $1200.00 and climbing by the seconds.. I have an indie mechanic who I trust and he says just wait it out they'll start making tuners after the first of the year. Finally I have a buddy who builds his own bikes and he say's let's put the pipes and Fuel Pack on and see what happens.

I've read all the forums heard the different stories, fuel packs are great, V/H service and support sucks, Harley is the only way to go. So I'm going throught this against the wall and see what sticks.... BTW I'm going to have Harley put the Heavy Breather kit and do a Stage One at the 1000K service.

Thanks in advance,
Stan

unfknblvbl · #2 01-09-2008, 05:53 AM

Thanks for the info on pricing. I was looking to basically do the same thing when I pick up my night train (big radius, fuel pak and hypercharger), but I think I'll have to reconsider. Good luck and anxious to see how it turns out. Sorry, I can't provide any helpful answers though.

hdroadkng · #3 01-09-2008, 06:41 AM

I spoke to Tim at American Cycle Service (yes a shameless plug) who said to go for the pipes with a fFuelpack and you'll be fine. He even said that a Stage 1 wasn't necessary with the Heavy Breather as long as I do the Fuelpack. So thats my plans I'll let you know the results

pono60 · #4 04-08-2008, 07:49 PM

i recntly spoke to someone from v&h on the phone,and he said that there is NO NEED to waste money putting it on a dyno if you put a fuel pack on your bike.he said that the maps they provide were actually derived from putting bikes w/ different setups on a dyno,and that anybody who tells you to put it on a dyno is telling you to waste your money.and if you're worried that v&h service sucks,i called the ppl from dynojet,and they said the exact same thing about the pc.i will not be putting my bike on a dyno,either if i get the pc or the fuelpack.

shovelmike · #5 04-08-2008, 08:08 PM

I just converted my '02 Ultra to S&S gear drive, Andrews TW21G cams, Ness Big Sucker air cleaner, and Rush 2" slip ons. I installed a Power Commander. Tech Support is very good. I had a very productive conversation with their tech and used their map for S/E air cleaner and Wild Pig slip ons. Since the cam comes on at low and mid-range he advised...after loading the map to use the buttons to add 5 percent fuel in low range and 10 percent fuel in mid-range.
It runs great. I see no need to spend the bucks for dyno tuning...or to subject the bike to the thrashing they give it. As stated the maps are developed from dyno runs...no sense repeating what's already been done.
Sincerely: Shovelmike.

GrayRider · #6 04-08-2008, 08:13 PM

Fuel pack or any DFO is the way to go. Circuits adjust just like a carb.

shovelmike · #7 04-08-2008, 08:19 PM

It looks like we have a nice selection of user friendly EFI tuning devices at our disposal.

soulman13 · #8 06-13-2008, 01:58 PM

I have the Fuel Pak and I love it. Plug in the numbers and ride. My neighbor went with the dynojet unit and it still is not right after a year of messing around. I actually like the tech service I get from V&H. I just call them up and ask away and they have not steered me wrong yet. They test all units on a dyno to get the maps they have you plug in. The dealers try to tell you that every SERT has to be tuned on the dyno because all bikes are different. Many of them just plug in a map and run it one pass on the dyno to give you a print out, they never actually change anything. Consider this, if the tolerances on a stock 96"er varied from motor to motor so much that the same fuel map would not work on every bike, they would have to dyno tune every bike at the factory when they built them. This is just not the case. Harley's specs are very tight and the quality control is excellent. You can take the pistons out of one 96" motor and put them into another without any problems (both new motors of course).