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Old 05-25-2007, 03:48 PM
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Default Changing oil in '06 Deluxe

When changing the oil and filter, is it necessary to fill new filter with oil before installation? I know you cannot get much in it anyway. It doesn't hurt to start the bike with a dry filter,does it? The owner's manual does not mention putting some oil in filter. I do on my vehicles if filter is a straight up mount. What do y'all do? Thanks, Jr.
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It's not necessary but it a good idea. Just a tad will do.
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Just run some oil around the rubber washer, fit new filter and the new oil will run into it when you fill up.
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Does anyone know the micron rating of a standard HD filter?

Or better yet, the Beta rating?

In my new position I am learning that the filter is the key to longer engne life.

GM did a study, going from a 40 micron filter to 30 added 50% to engine life.

Going to a 15 micron made it a 70% increase.

Of course, GM being GM, they still use 40s in new cars and trucks.
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80% of the wear on an internal combustion engine is on a cold start up. One way to reduce it significantly is with a pre-luber which basically builds up oil pressure before you start your engine. I've never heard of them being made for bikes but they make them for cages.
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I use the K&N oil filter and no it isn't necessary to add any oil in the filter. As stated smear some oil around the rubber gasket on the oil filter.
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Default Filter Microns

Harley's newest oil filters aren't too bad but there are better out there.
Harley's oil filter brags a "nominal" rating of 5 microns. All engine damage occurs from debris between 2 and 20 microns. Harley doesn't list it's "absolute efficiency rating".
Absolute Efficiency is an agency standard rating and so is Nominal Efficiency. Absolute efficiency is how much microns are removed 98.7 percent of the time. Nominal rating is how much is removed 50 percent of the time.
Amsoil is the only filter in the world with nanofibre technology, absolute rating of 15 microns 98.7 percent of the time and nominal rating of 2 to 3 microns. Nanofibre technology is a web of fibres so small, 1/100th of a human hair, that removes 5 times more dirt than other filters and lets more air or oil through, depending if its the air or oil filter. Cost the same as the Harley filter and is good for twice the OEM drain interval, so cost is actually cheaper.
Check out amsoil.com and educate yourself, good reading. You'll be glad you did.
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and the Beta rating is ?????
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Harley's newest oil filters aren't too bad but there are better out there.
Harley's oil filter brags a "nominal" rating of 5 microns. All engine damage occurs from debris between 2 and 20 microns. Harley doesn't list it's "absolute efficiency rating".
Absolute Efficiency is an agency standard rating and so is Nominal Efficiency. Absolute efficiency is how much microns are removed 98.7 percent of the time. Nominal rating is how much is removed 50 percent of the time.
Amsoil is the only filter in the world with nanofibre technology, absolute rating of 15 microns 98.7 percent of the time and nominal rating of 2 to 3 microns. Nanofibre technology is a web of fibres so small, 1/100th of a human hair, that removes 5 times more dirt than other filters and lets more air or oil through, depending if its the air or oil filter. Cost the same as the Harley filter and is good for twice the OEM drain interval, so cost is actually cheaper.
Check out amsoil.com and educate yourself, good reading. You'll be glad you did.
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Hey expert, I take it you work for Amsoil? Nothing personal but I do not think it is worth risking the engine to leave a filter on when oil is changed. They should be changed every time. I have check the specs on many of the filters including K&N and none of the specs meets the Harley spec. I have also found (from experience with industrial machinery) that when you go to a smaller rating to get the smaller particles you must change the filter more often regardless of the ,edia until you have lceaned out all of the contaminants in the system. This is difficult on a Harley engine as it continues to create these contaminants because it is mostly aluminum.
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