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01-04-2009, 06:45 PM
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| |  Effects of water in oil
Faster oxidation of the oil.
Some additives may fall out of suspension (White stuff? Maybe)
ZDDP is more easily broken down, esp after 180F. Trust me, we care about this one.
Corrosion, yes, even with oil.
With corrosion comes particles, think liquid sandpaper.
Acids form. As bad as it sounds.
Wear, because water doesn't lubricate. Oil holds load, water, not so much.
Oil life is half for 500 ppm water versus 100.
So I guess it's best to keep your powder and your oil dry. |
01-04-2009, 06:50 PM
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Well,hell,Blues...even I knew THAT much  !!!
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01-04-2009, 06:56 PM
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01-04-2009, 07:00 PM
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Hey Blues, good stuff, do you know if it hurts to run oil that is a little milky, to burn the mosture off?
That is pretty much what I do, never seemed to hurt, change it a little more often in the winter, or am I pushing my luck. Quote:
Originally Posted by BluesFan  Faster oxidation of the oil.
Some additives may fall out of suspension (White stuff? Maybe)
ZDDP is more easily broken down, esp after 180F. Trust me, we care about this one.
Corrosion, yes, even with oil.
With corrosion comes particles, think liquid sandpaper.
Acids form. As bad as it sounds.
Wear, because water doesn't lubricate. Oil holds load, water, not so much.
Oil life is half for 500 ppm water versus 100.
So I guess it's best to keep your powder and your oil dry. | |
01-05-2009, 04:34 PM
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Unless you have an oil drier, nonoe of us do, there is always some moisture.
Where do you fit in this?
PPM of Water
0 Bright and clear
100 Trace of translucent haze
200 Slight translucent haze
250 Translucent haze
500 Opaque haze
1000 Opaque haze with slight water drop out
Remember, this is for clear oils, motor oils are never gonna be bright and clear. |
01-05-2009, 10:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BluesFan Where do you fit in this?
PPM of Water
0 Bright and clear
100 Trace of translucent haze
200 Slight translucent haze
250 Translucent haze
500 Opaque haze
1000 Opaque haze with slight water drop out | Blues this is good stuff, never knew there were degrees of water saturation.
Haven’t had the problem this year, because I ride farther to work, but usually it would be 500.
When I caught it like this would try to run it enough to burn it off, and changed it more often usually 2500, 3000 instead of 5000, and yea it was Mobil1. |
01-06-2009, 02:31 PM
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Are you sure aboutthat 500 ppm?
It is easy with R&O oils as they are clean and clear and never darken from combustion products, as they are not used in that application.
Think varying shades of honey.
Motor oils are tougher. You can't read through them, so translucent haze is tough to judge.
Justbe sure you allow for the natural darkening. | |
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