Alright, I'm confused... Harley Oil & Lubrication Discuss Alright, I'm confused... in the Harley Tech & Harley How-to forums; Alright, I got the oil in and took it for a nice ride to Mobile, AL and back afterwards, about 90 miles round trip. I can't say that it made ...

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Alright, I got the oil in and took it for a nice ride to Mobile, AL and back afterwards, about 90 miles round trip. I can't say that it made that much of difference in noise. It slides right into 2nd when up shifting, every gear on the way to 6th "clunks" right in like normal and the same when down shifting from 6th all the way to number 1. Either way it has clean oil in it so it can set for 2 1/2 months while we sail around South America. Once I get back to CA I shouldn't have a problem finding amsoil or spectro.

I ain't mad at ya evo . You were of great help and I appreciate it!

[evoKENevo]

Hmmmm..."clunking" into gear (up shifting or down) sounds more like a matter of your primary chain, clutch and/or clutch cable needing adjust'mt than any trans or primary fluid is going to change very much...other than maybe giving the ATF a little more time to "de-gunk" your clutch plates.

I could be out in left field on this. But, if I were in your place, I'd try working the clutch (in-out) occasionally while riding IN gear for a while longer...come home...drain the ATF to add fresh...check/adjust primary chain tension...readjust my clutch and cable, for the least amount of slack possible/necessary in both of them...and give it another "test drive"

Last fall a friend was complaining about how his '08 Street Glide was vibrating/shakeing a lot at idle...and telling me that he'd been told it might be due to a sloppy primary chain. When we put it up on the lift, the primary chain was right on the money...but as long as it was up there I figured we might as well (why not) change his fluid (same Formula + that was in there) and readjust his clutch and cable...noting that I had to turn his clutch adjust'g screw in at least a full turn (way too much) before bottoming and turning it out 1/4 to 1/2 turn again. "Surprise"...not only did his bike idle as smooth as ever...but, after he left, he came back in a few minutes with a big grin on his face to tell me his trans was shifting a LOT smoother too.

NOTE: when adjusting your clutch always loosen your cable first...do your clutch adjusting...and retighten your cable last.

[twitch54]

Originally Posted by evoKENevo

UFB

First off they're all rated (here and elsewhere) as good if not better than most others incld'g Amzoil......

really......by who ??? show me the results for if you think for one minute regular 'ole mobil 1 compares to Amzoil 'specific' 20w-50 ....no way !!

Show me 'one' independent test that supporst your statement, I challenge you !

[unfknblvbl]

Originally Posted by twitch54

really......by who ??? show me the results for if you think for one minute regular 'ole mobil 1 compares to Amzoil 'specific' 20w-50 ....no way !!

Show me 'one' independent test that supporst your statement, I challenge you !

Whoa...slow down hot rod! It isn't regular 'ole mobil 1, it is fully synthetic Mobil 1 20W-50 blended specifically for V-twins.

After something I seen IRT Lucas M/C oil, I bet Mobil 1 is better than that and I'd even venture to say that Mobil 1 is better than Syn 3 from H-D.

I think you'll find most people will agree that Amsoil is probably some of the best oil out there, but just like you everyone has their preference.

And I say after reading this (gotta look at the SAE 50 groups) Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 ranks right up there Amsoil, the sad part is this is testing that Amsoil did: https://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2156.pdf

Calling Mr. Bluesfan...you have anything on any of these oils?

[evoKENevo]

UFB
I believe the "regular ol' Mobil 1" Twitch was referirng to is the Mobil 1 fully synth 15w50 oil I've chosen to run in my engine...which is not (b.f.d.) specifically labeled VS blended for motorcycle use.

Twitch
In response to your "challenge" to show just ONE independent test...Donnie Peterson who's written several excellent articles in AIM about oils (and other stuff of course) wrote one in the Nov.'05 issue titled "Synthetic Oil Revisited" that I think you'd find very enlightening. It deals with fossil as well as synth.oils incld'g (not limited to) H.D.'s Syn 3..Amsoil and Mobil 1 the gist of which all comes down to basically 2 things...Synthetics are better than fossil oils for our scooters...and Mobil 1's 15w50 "automotive oil" rated #1 over all the "motorcycle oils" that they independently tested,without the inflated price tag.

So,OK..now..what have YOU got to show us hot-rod !?!

[twitch54]

Originally Posted by evoKENevo

UFB
I believe the "regular ol' Mobil 1" Twitch was referirng to is the Mobil 1 fully synth 15w50 oil I've chosen to run in my engine...which is not (b.f.d.) specifically labeled VS blended for motorcycle use.

Correct, I was refering to 'plain jane' Mobil 1, not their MC specific, which from what I have read is a fine product.

In response to your "challenge" to show just ONE independent test...Donnie Peterson who's written several excellent articles in AIM about oils wrote one in the Nov.'05 issue titled Synthetic Oil Revisited that I think you'd find very enlightening.

Haven't read it but I don't doubt it is good testimony. I am pro Amsoil for it's unsurpassed properties such as shear stability, wear protection, viscosity integrity, etc. At $8.10 qt (case pricing) I by no means find it a pricey alternative, IMO.