06 Superglide or 08-09 Nightster - Harley Forum

duffman77087 · #1 11-06-2008, 02:10 AM

Well im sure everyone here knows I currently own a 03' sporty 883hugger. Well right now I have close to 4,000 miles on her right now and im lookin to upgrade her. Well for around the same price I can get a 06' Superglide with a 96ci V-Twin with 4,500 miles or a 08'-09' Nightster 1200. I really like both bikes and im kinda stuck in a rutt here. My dads buddy is lookin at sportys for his son and said he would buy mine for 6,500.00. So what bikes would you'll rather have?

milindh · #2 11-06-2008, 05:18 AM

Man Duffman, If you found someone that will actually give you $6500 for an '03 Hugger I think you should take $3500 of it (its real value) and put it towards whatever you like to ride! Take the other $3000 and find some deserving bank to bail out. You know...."Spred the wealth".

Myself, sometimes I feel like a Sporty and sometimes I feel like a 'Dyna. That's why I ride an FXR.

Tbone · #3 11-06-2008, 08:09 AM

Has the '06 SGengine has been boosted from an 88 to a 96 ci? The '06 originally had an 88 ci engine.
Have all the recalls and TSB's been done on the '06?
Recalls:
Transmission shifter jumping out of neutral.
Battery box bolt loosening and wiring contacting frame.

TSBs:
8 degree injectors causing stumbling on takeoff changed to 25 degree injectors with remap. (probably not necessary if engine has been upped to 96 ci.)
Washer in steering bending and causing clunk in front end changed to stiffer untabbed washer.

Neither a Recall (should have been) or a TSB:
The stator is bolted together and the bolts will back out and lock up the gear train by lodging in the magnets in the rotor. The replacement stator and all '07 stators are welded instead of bolted together. Plus, the replacement stators put out 14 volts at idle instead of at 2500 RPMs. Make sure about this one because it is expensive to replace the stator unless you do it yourself. And so far everyone with any miles on their bike that I know has had to replace that stator. Mine went out with 5 days left in warrranty at 22,000 miles.

Just a few things to think about and maybe ask about.

Wrightturn · #4 11-06-2008, 11:24 AM

Tbone has some very valid points. The 06Dyna is a "first year" 96TC. Just my opinion but I would not buy a first year anything. It takes a year or more for the bugs to show up and get fixed. I own a 99 first year TC88. They got so much bad press you couldn`t give them away. I am sure the 06 Dyna even with recalls will suffer some of this. All of the early production was recalled for the trans problem. The non safety issues will be more of a pain without the fed turning up the heat

Turns out all of the first year TC88s could be made reliable with cam chest improvements. The factory never would recall but gave an extended warranty after extensive litigation. My 99 has turned out to be a fantastic motorcycle. It just desn`t have any Harley parts in the cam chest. Thanks to S&S cam gears, Andrews cam, Torrington bearings, and Mobil 1 oil .
Buy the Sportster or wait for an 08 Dyna.

Tbone · #5 11-06-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrightturn

Tbone has some very valid points. The 06Dyna is a "first year" 96TC. Just my opinion but I would not buy a first year anything. It takes a year or more for the bugs to show up and get fixed. I own a 99 first year TC88. They got so much bad press you couldn`t give them away. I am sure the 06 Dyna even with recalls will suffer some of this. All of the early production was recalled for the trans problem. The non safety issues will be more of a pain without the fed turning up the heat

Turns out all of the first year TC88s could be made reliable with cam chest improvements. The factory never would recall but gave an extended warranty after extensive litigation. My 99 has turned out to be a fantastic motorcycle. It just desn`t have any Harley parts in the cam chest. Thanks to S&S cam gears, Andrews cam, Torrington bearings, and Mobil 1 oil .
Buy the Sportster or wait for an 08 Dyna.

Thanks for the backup Wright.
The reason I asked about the 96 ci. is the '06 Dyna was upgraded to the 6 speed tranny but still had the 88 ci. motor. I know of no '06's that were 96 unless they were upgraded with cylinders or pistons or both. And I think the upgrade to the TC88 ci. motors were to 95 ci.

BlueBob · #6 11-07-2008, 12:06 PM

I've owned a 1200 and Dyna. My personal opinion is ride what you like... but that doesn't help you decide.

The Sporty was more... well... sporty. It's a really fun bike.

The Dyna is much more comfortable. It's no slouch either, but it's not as quick and agile as the Sporty.

Wrightturn · #7 11-07-2008, 06:56 PM

Hey Tbone.

I stand corrected. For some reason my brain thinks 6 speed and new cam chest and oil pump and comes up with 96TC. Had not thought about it but will check the part numbers for the engine cases.

Tbone · #8 11-07-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrightturn

Hey Tbone.

I stand corrected. For some reason my brain thinks 6 speed and new cam chest and oil pump and comes up with 96TC. Had not thought about it but will check the part numbers for the engine cases.

Heck if I'm correcting you. You've forgotten more than I know about HD power plants. I just thought I was ignorant of something. I'm pretty sure that all the TC88's up to '05 Dyna's and '06 Touring can be fitted with a stage II at 95 ci. I guess the new EFI on the '06 Dyna's, which were the test bed for the introduction of the '07's, prevented a legal EPA upgrade. I looked in the P&A Catalog and there was no upgrade listed for the '06 Dynas.
I'm still readin' and learnin'.
Feel free to correct me at anytime.

Wrightturn · #9 11-08-2008, 05:35 AM

Hey Tbone,
The only 06 I have worked was a TC88 RK. Just like any other TC88. The Dyna was of interest to me because of the cam changes. Hydraulic tensioners, bigger oil pump and no outer cam bearing or bushing. The inner cam bearings are larger just like the TC96. You have cases set up like a TC96 but still have the TC88 crank. I know of one 06 Dyna that is a 95 inch. It was done with Wisco pistons and boring out the stock cylinders. There is always a way to get there. I just have this idea that with the other changes the 06 should be a 96. Brain fade.