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TwinPeaks, don't forget the sound the injectors make! It drives most new V-rodders nuts until they find out what it is.
My bike is essentially stock. The coolest sound it makes comes out from under the airbox at 81 mph in 5th. You just get this really pleasant rumble from the velocity stacks. I think it's the Revo's way of reminding you it really is a Harley. As for the airbox, I'm sure if H-D wanted to, they could have put a gas tank up there and hung a little tiny air filter off the side. There's plenty of room where the tank is now to all the electronics, battery, etc. I'd rather have my monster K&N filter. The air filter on a V-rod is huge. I don't mean for a bike. I mean for anything. It probably has close to as much surface area as the filter in my pickup.
EVERYBODY has a realtionship with Porsche Engineering. They are the largest automotive engineering firm in the world. The Evo, Revo and Twin Cam aren't the only Harley's that have benefited from Porsche engineering. The Revo IS NOT a Prosche design. It's Harley design. It's the VR-1000 race engine that has been streeted. Porsche just helped make the engine more reliable.
The "downdraft" intake is big part of the engineering that makes it run so efficiently. The advantage of downdraft intake has been common knowledge for decades.
The side draft intake has always been on issue on the traditional models. Harley would have put the gas tank up your arse before they put "a little tiny air filter off the side"!
I can respect differences in taste, needs, wants and the value of nostalgia.
I only know of only one other motorcycle with an "airbox" placed where the gas tank is on a conventional bike.
As far as Porsche, they did not design the engine, they helped, mostly research and development. They have a sister company that hires out for this kind of thing to a whole lot of builders/manufacturers. No one knows for sure how much input they really had, but safe to say Willie G. and his large team of Harley engineers had plenty to say about this engine. It was derived from the existing VR 1000.
Speaking of Porsche, they have had a working relationship with Harley since the AMF days. In fact, the heads on your Evo, among other recent improvements were developed by AMF along with Porsche back in the late 70's. AMF was thin on money and the project stalled, after the buyback Harley resurrected the design and We know have the Evo, however, I wouldn't call your crossbones a Porsche motorcycle or an "AMF".
I am probably wrong about the Porche design stuff, I just am going off of what they said in the show "birth of the v-rod" where they talk about how the v-rod was conceaved. That is where I got the Porche info.
Are you saying the Cross Bones motor is a shovel or a Evo motor? Better check again. It uses the 96b which is the new Harley twin cam motor. Not an evo or a shovel but something new. So I wouldn't say it was a porche or an AMF.
I am probably wrong about the Porche design stuff, I just am going off of what they said in the show "birth of the v-rod" where they talk about how the v-rod was conceaved. That is where I got the Porche info.
Are you saying the Cross Bones motor is a shovel or a Evo motor? Better check again. It uses the 96b which is the new Harley twin cam motor. Not an evo or a shovel but something new. So I wouldn't say it was a porche or an AMF.
I would not call the crossbones anything but a Harley, that was my point. Re-read that post. I did say that Porsche's involvement with Harley is not restricted to the Revolution engine, that they had input as well as AMF with the heads (same heads on the twin cam), also refining the new Twin cam design. I also stated they have been working with Harley since the buyback. I see no problem with hiring Porsche, but when I hear the V-Rod called a Porsche I like to pass this info along - just for kicks.
Harley would have put the gas tank up your arse before they put "a little tiny air filter off the side"!
Uh...they kind of did.
I wouldn't want 6.8 pounds per gallon up high on my V-rod. The super low CG is what makes the bikes so much fun. The only reason these long bikes flick through conrners almost like the sport bikes is because the CG is down on the ground and it doesn't take any effort to change direction. We also don't suffer from the front-end trying to tag the sky when popping out of a corner. Even with a passenger the front wheel stays planted. I'm now up to around 11,000 miles with my wife on the back. We figure roughly half the total mileage is riding double. 22k+ total: 11k solo, 11k double. Not to shabby for a bike we bought on Veterans Day in 2006.
__________________ Cody
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LOL! Ya, I guess it is up there nearby the area in question!!!
Interesting take on the V's handling. Conventional wisdom sees the long wheel base and slight rake as a detriment to "hard cornering", although it's the perfect set-up for launching and pulling hole shots. It takes a bit of getting used too (32 degree rake) but once in the pocket she handles nicely.
CG is average for a cruiser.
The V-rods really do give lie to conventional wisdon. If I didn't own one, I wouldn't believe how the corner. The only other bike I've ridden with a CG as low as the V-rod is the V-max. Maxers always complain about the short wheelbase they have and the "soft frame". I don't know anyone with a new Max. You can't really say the CG is the V-rods is average for a cruiser. It's not. It's lower and fairly far forward. The sport bikers at our local bike night used to give me a hard time about having a "wannbe sport bike", until one of the follwed me in one evening. After we parked, he checked my tires and found out I don't have any "chicken strips". My pipes and radiator cowls show how far over I get. I can do it with my wife on the back. That's one reason I want adjustable air suspension. I could use another inch of ground clearance when riding double. Since we ride with so many other makes of bikes, I know how the Night Rod compares. Only the M109 can hand with us riding double on back roads. Solo a V-max can hang. Riding double the Max has to back off. Same with the Sportsters. Dynas corner well both solo and double, but they can't carry the power I can. Second gear on a V-rod is wicked. It will handle 20 to 90mph just fine. If needed, 1st handles up to 50+mph very well also. Once you learn where the edges of the envelope are on the V-rod, and what the Revo can do, you discover just how incredible a machine Willy G designed.
Keep in mind the Night Rod, VRSCD, is a mid control bike with a 180 rear tire and just a tad more ground clearance than the other V-rods except the R. My envelope is a hair bigger than "average" for V-rods.
__________________ Cody
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