Lesson Learned, Check w/Snopes - Harley Forum

shovelmike · #1 05-06-2009, 08:36 AM

I found it prudent to delete my post from yesterday titled "Montana Restaurant", Frisco Rigid called it to my attention that Snopes had debunked that one. Lesson learned, I should have checked it myself, sometimes we are all to ready to believe any abhorrent antecdote about those whose politics we detest, however we can easily damage our credibility.
Y'all have a great day. Sincerely: Shovelmike

Rocky · #2 05-06-2009, 01:28 PM

That happens to us all occasionally, that particular tale with hanoi Jane and Ted has been around the block a few times. I'm surprised it's still out there.

Tbone · #3 05-06-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky

That happens to us all occasionally, that particular tale with hanoi Jane and Ted has been around the block a few times. I'm surprised it's still out there.

I can still believe it if I want to.

Buzz Kanter · #4 05-06-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tbone

I can still believe it if I want to.

Yes you can. And don't forget the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus

clif02 · #5 05-06-2009, 10:26 PM

There is no tooth fairy...but there IS a Santa Claus...right?

unclepsycho · #6 05-06-2009, 11:49 PM

'Bad Santa' was a funny movie.......

chipster · #7 05-07-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by clif02

There is no tooth fairy...but there IS a Santa Claus...right?

Yes, Santa does exist. As a matter of fact, the Easter Bunny rents a summer cottage from him.

unclepsycho · #8 05-07-2009, 12:43 AM

I musta been a worthless scum when I was a kidd... No santa at our house.... till I got married... and then he came to our house and brung lots of kewl stuff for our two girls.... so Santa can be selective to some neighborhoods.....

Tbone · #9 05-07-2009, 11:58 AM

In 1972 Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden and others traveled to North Vietnam to give their support to the North Vietnamese's Government. When she returned to the United States, she advised the news media that all of the American Prisoners of War were being well treated and were not being tortured.

As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war. Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of 1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his guards for refusing to meet with groups such as Jane Fonda's. Jane Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."

While American Soldiers were fighting and dying in the Vietnam War, Jane Fonda, the daughter of Henry Fonda, was using her money and influence at colleges and universities to gather support to advocate communism and encourage rebellion and anarchy against the United States Government.

On November 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of some two thousand students, "If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist." At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism. " Washington Times July 7, 2000

In 1988, Fonda admitted to former American POWs and their families that she had some regrets, stating:
"I would like to say something, not just to Vietnam veterans in New England, but to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did. I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I'm very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families. [...] I will go to my grave regretting the photograph of me in an anti-aircraft gun, which looks like I was trying to shoot at American planes. It hurt so many soldiers. It galvanized such hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could possibly have done. It was just thoughtless..."

In a 60 Minutes interview on March 31, 2005, Fonda reiterated that she had no regrets about her trip to North Vietnam in 1972, with the exception of the anti-aircraft gun photo. She stated that the incident was a "betrayal" of American forces and of the "country that gave me privilege". Fonda said, "The image of Jane Fonda, Barbarella, Henry Fonda's daughter ... sitting on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal ... the largest lapse of judgment that I can even imagine." She later distinguished between regret over the use of her image as propaganda and pride for her anti-war activism: "There are hundreds of American delegations that had met with the POWs. Both sides were using the POWs for propaganda... It's not something that I will apologize for." Fonda said she had no regrets about the broadcasts she made on Radio Hanoi, something she asked the North Vietnamese to do: "Our government was lying to us and men were dying because of it, and I felt I had to do anything that I could to expose the lies and help end the war."

frisco-rigid · #10 05-07-2009, 02:29 PM

Thanks T

NoBody can talk outa Both sides of their mouth as well as a Liberal..

Anybody that believes she is Genuinely sorry that she did/said that stuff prob thinks OJ really WAS looking for Nicole & Goldmans Killer..

Permit me to add that whenever I read and confirm that a Celebrity is a Liberal I DO NOT go to their movies listen to their music read their books Nor do I even watch them on Free TV..

Liberals are the Enemies of American Freedom..